Sundia vs Mister Babache diabolos
Sundia EVO, Magforce and Echo compared with the Mister Babache Finesse and its Evolution centres on stability, weight, materials, modularity and price.
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The Mister Babache Finesse is the Swiss classic of European diabolo, and the Sundia EVO is the model that replaced it in most serious players’ bags. The Finesse wins on modularity; the EVO wins on stability, weight and the quality of its bearing options. At roughly equal prices, the EVO is the one we recommend for anyone past their first week.
The two companies
Mister Babache is a Swiss juggling manufacturer whose diabolos have been sold in Europe since the 1990s: the Finesse, now in its fourth version, the Performer, Tornado and Fascination above it, and the Arlequin, Millenium, Galaxy and Diabolino below. The Finesse is the model most players know and the one this guide compares. The Finesse is built around a hub that accepts interchangeable “Evolution” centres: a finger-trick centre, an LED centre and a bearing centre.
Sundia is Taiwanese and builds nothing but diabolos. It introduced the ball-bearing diabolo in 2005 and the magnetic bearing axle in 2021. See who is Sundia.
Who is comparing
Guillaume Karpowicz, who runs the shop, was sponsored by Mister Babache as a teenager and moved on to Sundia as a professional artist, with years of experience on both. He moved because Sundia played more stable and lighter in his hands, took parts and colours more readily, and its bearing models felt steadier. That is the experience behind the verdicts below: one player’s view, not a measurement.
Side by side
Sundia figures and prices are the manufacturer’s specifications and this shop’s prices on 13 September 2026. Other brands’ weights and sizes are from the manufacturers’ published specifications where available and are otherwise approximate (marked “about”); their prices are the manufacturer’s recommended retail price where we have one and otherwise the ranges seen at European online retailers on 3 September 2026; they vary by shop and may have changed since.
| Sundia EVO G2 | Sundia Magforce (bearing) | Mister Babache Finesse | Finesse with Evolution bearing | |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Weight | 240 g | 256 g | about 265 to 277 g | heavier with centre |
| Cup diameter | 12.7 cm | 12.9 cm | 13.5 cm | 13.5 cm |
| Cup material | Soft TPU-type, solid colours | Hard, transparent | Hirex plastic | Hirex plastic |
| Axle | Fixed, steel | Magnetic triple bearing | Fixed | Single bearing centre |
| Assembly | Self-locking washers, by hand | Bearing axle, needs a tool | Screw and washers, needs a tool | Needs a tool |
| Sharp low-friction cup edge | Yes, plus a stability ring | Yes | No | No |
| Replaceable cups | Yes, 16 € | Yes, 16 € | Not listed singly on the maker’s site (Sept. 2026) | Not listed singly on the maker’s site (Sept. 2026) |
| Add-ons | LED kit, spinning bolt, dragon tail, narrow hubs | LED kit, spinning bolt, dragon tail, narrow hubs | Evolution centres (finger-trick, LED, bearing), hub types, weight kit | Evolution centres (finger-trick, LED, bearing), hub types, weight kit |
| Weight tuning | Plastic, carbon or metal washers; normal or heavy rings | Plastic, carbon or metal washers | Weight kit | Weight kit |
| Price | 45 € | 70 € | about 30 to 40 € | about 55 to 70 € with centre |
| Made in | Taiwan | Taiwan | Switzerland | Switzerland |
What the differences mean in play
- Correction. The EVO’s sharp stability ring means the string touches a single point when you fix a lean. On the Finesse the correction runs along the cup and takes longer. This is the quality that makes a diabolo feel “calm” in the hands.
- Weight and size. The Finesse is about 30 g heavier and almost a centimetre wider than the EVO. That reads as forgiving on the first day and as slow from the second month, when tricks get fast.
- Bearings. Babache’s bearing is an add-on centre in a diabolo designed for a fixed axle. Sundia’s bearing models are designed as such: hard cups that shield the bearings from drops, a triple or five-bearing axle, and the magnetic Magforce. The fixed vs bearing guide explains when a bearing is worth it.
- Modularity. This is the Finesse’s real strength: one body, three centres and a weight kit. Sundia answers with separate cups, hubs, axles, washers, rings and LED kits, which in practice covers the same ground and adds two-diabolo narrow hubs and finer weight tuning.
- Assembly. A Sundia fixed axle is held by self-locking washers and comes apart by hand with a twist, which is what lets a touring artist flatten a fixed diabolo into a suitcase without tools; the Finesse’s screw and washers need a tool. Bearing axles need a tool on both brands.
Bottom line
The Finesse is a good diabolo with a smart centre system. The Sundia EVO G2 is lighter, steadier, the same price, and grows with the player, which is why it is our recommendation. For a bearing, skip the add-on centre and buy a diabolo built around one: Magforce or, on a tight budget, the Echo 2.0 Bearing, whose nylon axle wears sooner.
Questions
Is the Mister Babache Finesse a good diabolo?
Yes. It is a well-made 13.5 cm diabolo with a clever interchangeable centre, and around 2005, in the years of the Diabology DVD, it was the reference in Europe. Since then, in our view, Sundia has moved ahead on engineering, choice of materials and cup design: the Finesse has no stability ring and sits at the heavy end, around 265 to 277 g, which is why many players who move into fast or multi-diabolo play switch to Sundia.
Which is better for a beginner, the Finesse or the Sundia EVO G2?
The EVO G2. It is 240 g against about 270 g, has a stability ring, costs about the same, and takes a triple-bearing axle later. The Finesse is the choice if you specifically want Babache's modular centre system.
Can I put a bearing in a Mister Babache Finesse?
Yes, the Finesse takes Babache's Evolution bearing centre, sold separately. Sundia's bearing diabolos are built as bearing models from the start, with cups that protect the bearings from drops.
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